Interview with Brett Farrell on Coast to Coast AM with George
Noory February 25, 2019
(George’s words in blue.
Callers in red.)
We're going to go deep down under, we're going to Australia where
we talk with Brett Ferrall about spirit possession. His book is called “The road
home”.
When working as a clinical hypnotherapist and psychotherapist, a
number of experiences with clients carrying attached entities convinced him
that he needed to explore a whole new aspect of the healing process.
Brett has since amassed a vast amount of knowledge about the
variety of possible entity attachments, is continually refining protocols and
procedures for spirit release work, which combined with his psychic skills
enabled him to work very effectively in the field of spirit release therapy.
And here's Brett on coast to coast. First time. Brett, welcome to the program.
Thank you George. It's a real pleasure to be on your show.
So how did you get started as a hypnotherapist?
I started as a
hypnotherapist. I was meditating one day and I was thinking I was working in
mental health and I thought I need to do something more effective with clients.
And I was told go and study to be a hypnotherapist. So I did. And that's how I
got started. And then I eventually started having some psychic experiences with
clients while I was doing my studies. And that sort of led me into working in
the field of spiritual therapy.
And tell us about that spirit release therapy. Exactly what do you
do?
What I do is I check clients. I check nearly every client
now that comes to me to see if I can put myself, rather than putting them in a
trance and hypnotizing them, I put myself into a trance and I can see the entities that are in them and I can talk to them and I can then take them out
according to the various protocols that I use.
Since you've been, since you've been doing this, have you saved a lot of people?
Well, a lot of people, benefited enormously from it. Of course, I work with children too
sometimes, and I've had mothers side of me, Oh, you've given me my child back.
Thank you very much. You know, it's quite dramatic sometimes when you, when you
work this way. It's not the only thing I do for clients because, the
spirit work is part of the therapeutic package. But what I
find is that if you've got a dark entity in someone and I mean a dark entity that's an entity that's never been a human being. It's not like an earthbound entity
that’s been attached to you.
And they always work to destroy someone's life. Now if
you've got one of those I you, it compromises, any other therapy you do
immediately. So that's why I always check for them, uh, first stop and, and get
rid of them and then we move onto other things from there.
Have you ever gotten to a case where you just can't get rid of the
demonic spirit or whatever is in there?
No, I haven't actually. Some of them put on a really good
fight, and they’re quite strong and, and when I start talking to them, they'll
say things like, you can't make me leave. You'll get into trouble if you try
and make me leave, you know, bad things will happen and all this sort of thing.
But they really can't prevent me from taking them out. But what I do is, once I
located them, I will sometimes… some of them will talk with me,
others won't. But I always end up binding them up. And incapacitating them,
sort of bind them with light and then they can't run away or get at and infect
somebody else and then I can take them out and then I can send them to the
appropriate place. It's important to send to a place from which they can't come
back. Otherwise, they’ll come back and infect somebody else.
What do you think of Ouija boards, Brett?
Oh, deadly. Wouldn't, wouldn't touch it.
huh? Good.
Stay away, I mean really because of, you know, a lot of
people can use them and they’re just fun. But if you're a bit depressed or
you're down or you've got a psychic environment that’s a bit weaker. You, can
invite something in that can be difficult to get rid of if you don't know how
to get rid of it. Yeah, yeah. Really can.
And these things can once they’re in, these dark entities can
make life difficult and the longer they're in, the more difficult life becomes
and the more powerful they tend to become within the personality of the person
and keep affecting them more and more.
How do they tend to take over an individual? I mean, how do they do
that?
How? Well they work through the subconscious mind basically.
Sometimes people are consciously aware that something's wrong or something's
watching them more. They look in the mirror and suddenly get a flash of another
face. But usually they work through the subconscious mind. For instance, I had
one client and she came to see me because she just could not make any progress.
She kept getting blocked. She'd studied to be a therapist, but every time she
tried to set up a practice, she would find some things would get in the way and
she'd, she'd lose heart and she couldn't do it. When I checked her for a
clearing, I found there was an earthbound male entity. In other words, that's a
person that's been a human being and has died. And instead of going to the next
realm or to the light, he has attached himself to somebody. Now this man within
her was a very domineering man and he had been married to her in an earlier
lifetime and he'd followed her through a number of lifetimes and stayed with
her because he still regarded her as his wife.
Oh.
And his idea of a wife was a woman that stays at home and cooks
and doesn't go out and get a job and work for herself and become independent.
So he was blocking her at every step.
Of
course. Yeah,
I got rid of him, but then I had to do work with the client
because she'd lost confidence over the years. So there was quite a bit of work
to be done, to follow on from there.
You had
to build that confidence back up.
Yes. And that's usually the case. It's one step to take entities
out of people, and usually then we'd follow up with psychotherapy of some sort or
another because quite often these people have had trauma in this lifetime and
that's opened them up to attachments. So we have to look at the trauma in their
childhood in this lifetime. And often there's been trauma in past lifetimes. I've
had that happens with children sometimes. I had a young girl, she was 12 years
old and I did this remotely. I worked remotely with children most of the time.
I don't work face to face with them all that much, cause the last thing I'd
want to do is tell the child it's got a demon inside.
Oh my
God. That's just what they need to hear. Right.
This girl was about 12, and her mother said she was too
frightened to get on a school bus. She'd gone to a school where she now was
required to do that and she was terrified. She'd be up vomiting the night
before the fear, the thought of getting on the bus. So, I tuned into her and first
thing I found was she had an implant in her from extraterrestrials, which I got
rid of. And that improved her energy quite a lot, but I knew that wasn't the
cause of her problem with getting on the bus. I then went a bit deeper in
working with her into the subconscious mind. And I ended up going back into a
past life. And in her very last previous life, she had been a young Jewish girl
in Europe during the second world war and she'd been forced to work in a
brothel looking after the German soldiers on leave. And every morning she and
the other girls had to get up and get on a bus and go to this place to do that
job. And she eventually committed suicide as a result of that. But the trauma
of getting on the bus, it was, the memory was still there in his subconscious
mind. And when she had to get on that school bus, that feeling came back
without her knowing where it was coming from. So I then had to do some work. It
was an interesting case actually because what I did was, I went into her past
life myself, and took the girl out of that scene and brought her into the present
life and introduced her to her other self in this lifetime. Then we got the
girl's mother to come down from the light and take her to the light and then
did some healing work on my client and she was fine after that. She had no
problems. She's OK.
Have you
been this way since you were a child, having this kind of psychic ability?
I was always
interested in spiritual things, but it was discouraged in my family. And then I was mainly interested in my teens and later life in the idea of
enlightenment rather than spiritual experiences. And I was very doubtful about
ghosts and things like that. Quite honestly, I wouldn’t say I believed in them. I
just put them in the "too hard" basket, but then I had couple of experiences. I
can mention my first experience with a ghost, if you want me to tell you about
it.
Yeah, please
go ahead.
My father was in hospital with the last illness before he
died, and he’d just had an operation. I went in to talk to him and, and it was
a bit difficult because our relationship wasn't 100%. So there were some
silences and I could hear this swishing noise. And I realized in the corner of
the room there was, what you'd call a bathroom. I thought that's coming from
there and it's probably the system on the toilet. And I thought I could
probably do something, so I said to him is that annoying you? And he said, Oh
yeah, it's driving me crazy. If you could do something, that'd be good. So I
said I’ll go and have a look. I went into this windowless little room, and as I
closed the door before I turned a light on in the darkness, I saw this white
figure run from one corner to the other and then back again. And I realized
what had happened is someone had died in there and they'd taken the body up.
The spirit was still in the toilet doing this repetitive movement. Over and
over again.
I’d read about this a lot, and this was enough for me so I
suddenly thought, wow, I'm actually experiencing a ghost here. So I closed the
door and didn't turn the light on. And then I moved into a meditative state
myself because I've been meditating for many, many years. It was a little old
lady and she jumped on me and wrapped her arms around my neck and the legs around
my waist. I could feel her on me just as if one of my kids had jumped on me. It
was just incredible. And she was terrified and she would not let go. And I
thought, Oh, what am I going to do? I've got to take it to the light. I just
went up in my mind and we went up together and we're going through darkness and
lights and I can't see any light to send it to.
And I'm thinking, what am I going to do? And then finally I
saw a light looming up over on the left, getting brighter and brighter. And I
said to her, that's where you have to go. But she would not let go. She was too
frightened. She was just hanging on for dear life. So I put my hands under her
backside and I could feel her bones in my hand. She was a skinny little thing.
And I said, that's where you go. And I gave her a great shove and she left and
went up that direction. So I came back down and I find myself in this bathroom
again in this pitch black. And I walked out and I didn't do anything. And my
father said to me, did you fix it? And I said, I think so. See how you go? And
I came back about a few days later and I said, how is that noise in the
bathroom. And he said, Oh, thanks for fixing that. It's, it's terrific. And the
nurse came in and said, Oh, it was you that did that. Oh thanks. It was driving
us crazy.
Everybody
heard the thing, huh?
Yeah, I could hear it. And that woman was running across
from the sink to the toilet and attempting to flush the toilet.
That's
funny. A real strange one.
Sometimes people are caught in a repetitive pattern like
that. And they just keep the performing the same action over and over.
Did these
spirits, Brett ever thank you in their own way?
The dark ones don’t. Yeah, because they are really inimical to
mankind. They’re just out to make life hard for us, they want to…
They're
ticked off.
They want to use us for their place. And they want to do
that by preventing people from spiritually ascending and evolving. They want to
keep us down to this base level so that they can stay on earth in us. So they
never think, they're always threatening and aggressive always. But sometimes, and
even with earthbound spirits, they don't always want to leave. I have to talk
them into leaving and going to the light. Usually it takes a while to
convince them it's the right thing to di.
Are you an Exorcist?
No, I don't, I don't do exorcisms because I do the simplest
sort of work. I take out the same sort of entities from people like thought
forms and dark entities. I don't do it
with rituals. I do it because I can see the end of the end. I talk to them and
if the client is willing, and not many are, but sometimes they are, I can
actually get the entity to talk through the client using their voice. I’ll tell
the entity I want you to put your thoughts into the voice, into the mind of the
client, and let him speak for you. And the client can have the experience that
actually speaking on behalf of the entity within them if they want. And some
people find that pretty exciting, but most people don't want to know about it.
What
would you say Brad to in your career as the, you know, spirit release therapist
has been probably one of the strangest encounters you've ever had?
Oh, look, I've had some. I'll tell it to you. I had a client
and she rang me in a panic and wanted to see me quickly. I've been working with
her already and she was being attacked. She said, I've looked inside. There's a
snake on me. So I went in to see what was going on. And she had this huge snake
about as think as my thigh wrapped around her and in her and as I approached at
the Astral level, it jumped out and attacked me, which had never happened
before. Really just aggressive and full of hatred. It was just absolute hatred.
So I wrestled it into submission and then bound it up. So it was no
longer a threat. And then what I do is, dark entities have an energy trail that
leads back to where they've come from and I find it's a necessary to follow
that trail and find out where they come from. I’ll explain why now, because I
followed this energy trail back in, and it led me to a deceased man who was in
a very dark place and he was in a dark place because he’d led a particularly
bad life. And he had sent this snake to this woman as a thought form. It was an
attack and it had taken the form of a snake.
And I described what he looked like. And she said, yes,
that's the man that abused me for years when I was a child. So I thought, I've
got to do something with him. Otherwise he would just launch another attack on
this person. And so I pushed him further into the dark and encapsulated him in
an energetic covering in the dark so that he could not send any, transmit any
energies out or receive any. And then I went back to the client and we
continued therapy after that. But, so this is a part of the difference between
what I do and an exorcism because I don’t think exorcists follow up and find
out where these come from very often. And in the therapeutic sense,
you have to do that because if it's someone, sometimes it's the human being
launching these attacks on your client. They'll keep doing it unless you go
back and tell them, make it stop.
How many
different kinds of entities are there, Brett?
Oh, there's at least at least half a dozen, I see regularly.
I have these dark ones, I have people that have hooked on or died and attached
themselves and they might've done that because they’re just lost and lonely.
Sometimes little kids will die in hospital and attach to the nurse nearby because
they don't know where to go.
Oh, they're
scared.
Yeah. Yeah. And to the kid, this is a lovely person that's
been looking after them. So it's a safe place to be. And nurses often have
attachments like that. Or sometimes they're addicted to substances and want to attach
to someone that is using drugs or drinking so I can drink the vicariously.
Sometimes they'll attach for revenge or they'll want to finish something, or perhaps
they love the person. And if, someone said, please don't leave me, so they
attached instead of going up. There’s lots of reasons. And then the other big one
I get is thought forms, which is like, if you put enough energy into hating
someone that energy will become like an entity in itself in the person you're
directing it at. And this is what black magic's about.
it's like
bad karma too, isn't it?
Oh yeah. Bad karma. Absolutely. And look, it’s an issue if
you're a person that's full of rage. One of the first experiences I had, in
actually taking an entity out of the client was before I started practicing. I
was working in mental health, working with a client that had done jail time for
assault. And he was a threatening sort of guy but I got off fairly well with
him. But he frightened nearly everyone else in the office and the building. But
one day I was at home and all of a sudden on my exercise bike in the garage and
all of a sudden here he is standing in front of me, not any physical form, but
in a sort of astral form. And, this thing started coming up out of his head
with his teeth and hair all sticking out of it. And it was screaming at me and
I thought, what's going on? And I looked at it and it was saying, you can't
make me leave. You can't make me leave. And it was like just absolute rage. It
was full of rage. And I didn't know anything about how to deal with things, how
to use the light and everything else. So I just, I just reached at it and
grabbed it and wrestled it to the ground and then, it turned into a little
furry creature and tried to run back to the client, but I grabbed it and
I took it up. I told it, you've got to go, I've got to take you somewhere. So I
took it up high like I did with the ghost. I was shown what's called the gray
zone cause everything's gray up there. And I popped him in there and I knew
that he would stay there until it's sorted out.
You were
talking about how you were attacked by the snake earlier, Brett, I mean, has it
gotten any worse for you?
In terms of attacks, that was probably one of the most
vigorous ones, but I have been attacked. One time I made a mistake when I was
early on in my practice. A woman came to see me and she had this entity that
would come to her at night and pin her to the bed, which is not an uncommon
thing actually, but it would prevent her from lifting her arms up and she
couldn't and it was quite frightening for her. And it also sometimes happened
during the day. So I took this entity out of her and thought I had got rid of
it quite carefully, but I must have not followed the protocol. I woke up at about three o'clock in the
morning after I'd gone home of course. And, I'm pinned to my bed and I can't
lift my arms up and feel this really heavy weight on the, and I'm thinking, I'll
fill myself with light or I'll do this and nothing worked. I was just
absolutely being pressed into the bed physically. And so in the end, I just
gave this enormous effort, summoned up my energy, held my breath, gave an
enormous yell and just physically grabbed the thing and jumped up and wrestled
it up. And then I wrapped it up and got rid of it. But that was because I
must've been a bit careless and they'd come home with me and it's shifted from
her to me. The report I got from her was that she was very happy with the
session because she was quite free. But you can be attacked if you're not
careful on that. Note what you're doing.
What do these
dark entities want? Brett, what are they after?
I have often wondered
this because it puzzles me too, George. What they want is they want the earth.
The earth is a three-dimensional sort of dense. It's a dense energy here
compared with a lot of other places out there in the universe. And it suits
these dark entities that want the earth to be their place in the world, in the
universe, sorry. And they want, in order to have that, they can't be occupied
themselves. And they don't have bodies. They want to occupy the bodies of human
beings, but they don't want human beings to ascend to a high level of vibration
and spiritual awareness because that then means that the entities can’t enter
them or the people will not reincarnate anymore. So they want to keep everyone
down. At a very base level and the more you're interested in fighting, taking
drugs, warfare and all those negative lower energy thought patterns, the more
the happier they are with you.
And they want to keep you there. I asked one of them why he was spending his time keeping someone unhappy and he says because when
they're unhappy they stay with us. And I went once to follow the trail of a
dark entity and it took me back to a high place and I came to the biggest, the
biggest one I've ever seen. There is a hierarchy of them and, and the oldest
ones tend to be the top of the hierarchy, quite enormous. That can be the size
of a small mountain sometimes they've reached enormous size and this one was
like that. And, and I actually stood on his chest to talk to him. He was that
big and he was a really old thing and he had dark things flying around
protecting him. I said, what did you send this young dark entity down into my
client for?
Because he knew I was going to just get rid of the entity.
And I said, well we have to do what we can. And I said, well look, you know,
you can't win. You can't beat God. You can't beat the light. What, what's the
point? He said, well, we do what we can. And I realized what he was saying was
that they don't have to win. They just have to be able to delay indefinitely
and that would be a win for them. That's what they want. So I said to him,
well, I think I'll get rid of you. And he said, well, a lot have tried, many
have tried but I'm just too big. And I said, well let's see about that because
I took it as a challenge anyway. I got rid of him and that was a bit of shock
for him I suppose.
But the things that were guarding him then attacked me. So I got rid of a couple of them, but what I did with this guy to get rid of him
was I spread myself around him in the astral form. In the astral world,
whatever you imagine happens, basically that's how you control your energy and
everything that happens. You just imagine it and your energy goes where your
imagination goes. I surrounded this whole thing with my, like extended my own
energy form all around him. And then I drew that in like a net until I squeezed
him down, until he was a bowl of, at a diameter of about eight feet. And then I
encased that in steel and then I took him out to what I call is what I've been
told is the sea of forgetfulness.
I didn't know about this early on because, but later on I
was shown the sea of forgetfulness. That's what I call it. And I'll take them
out and drop them into this very deep sea. And I know that when they go into
that there is, eventually all the memories they have and the powers they have
will eventually be worn away. And all that will be left will be the spark of
light that's at the core and then that will be recycled because a dark entity,
unlike a thought form, has the spark of God's light in it and they think of
themselves as being black and that the light will hurt them and that they're at
war with the light. But in fact what they don't even realize is that that spark
of light right down at the very core of their being. And sometimes I can talk
them into going down and looking at that. And if I do that, they will start to
experience the warmth and the light and usually once they get that far, but I
will agree to let that light fill their whole form and we can clean them up
enough for them to go to the light instead of going to one of these dark places
where they get locked away for thousands of years.
Once
somebody has an entity attached to them, do they know? Do they know they've got
this entity stuck to them?
Some suspect, they don't know. But clients come to me and
say, I think I've got an entity because I keep having a voice in my head telling
me that I’m no good. One woman said to me, I look in the mirror and sometimes I
see the face of an old woman. And she had an old woman in her that was
basically starting to live. The old woman was starting to relive her old, old
life from a past in life through this young woman. And that was destroying this
young woman's life. Sometimes people will suddenly, if they have to go to a
hospital and their energy structure is down, where perhaps they had a car
accident and something enters them, then they suddenly find, I've got this
thirst for alcohol or they start getting in rages all of a sudden and their
character changes dramatically.
That sort of thing could be an indication. Sometimes people
will think, I just keep having a dream about this. This entity or this person
coming to me. And that's the subconscious telling them that I've got one of
these, an entity there. So people often have an inkling, but I think in the
past people have just written it off and said it’s impossible. Our Western
culture is not really good at recognizing this. In the Eastern cultures, these
things are well known and people are much more alert to it. But in our culture,
our ignorance of it actually makes us susceptible to attachment. And it also
means people don't go for treatment all that much.
Brad, how
does an innocent child get attached?
Pretty easily, actually. Children can get easily be attached
to, because of their energy, that is, they're quite open and they're quite open
in that sense. So, I have people come to me and, say, I've got an attachment,
so I’ll ask the entity, how old was the client when you attached to this
person, and caused this. It's no good saying how old are you? Because they're
then I can't answer, but I can tell you all the client wasn't sometimes they say
two years old and so on like that. And, and I ask, why do you attach to her?
Cause she was really nice and it was easy to get in.
How can
you tell if you've got an attachment?
Some of the things I've just mentioned. But also, most of
the signs for an attachment can also be the signs for personality disorder,
Right?
There could be something mental here going on, right?
Yeah. Well even if the personality isn’t always actually
being psychotic. It's often being a bit difficult to get hold with basically. You
can still function in normal society, but, if people are, a little bit bizarre in the way they behave
or if they say, they've got a voice in their head, sometimes that's a sign of
psychosis, but that can also be, the psychosis can be brought on by an entity
that's doing that.
If someone develops a conflict about their sexuality they
might find, you know… for instance, a mother referred a girl, a teenager to me,
and she was saying she wanted to be a male. And I went in and had a look and
she had a very dominant male, earthbound entity within her and it was encouraging
her to be a man. So I took him out and then she started to resolve her issue around
her sexual dysphoria at that point.
Now, how
do you work? I mean, are you a, like a priest, you know, are you carrying a
crucifix? What, what do you do?
No, no, I don't have any religious affiliations. George. I work
with spirit and I work as a therapist and by word of mouth, I'm getting more
and more people that are interested in the spirit release side of it, but I
still get a lot of my work with people that have been traumatized in childhood
or in past lives. I do a lot of work with trauma. Even on occasion, you still get the
person who wants to stop smoking. So there’s a lot of trauma, anxiety,
depression, those sorts of things. And people that find their lives are
blocked, stopped and they just can't make progress anymore. So I get a lot of women, I get mothers, who
had been referred by other mothers who want me to look at their children who have
behavioral problems and won't go to school. And I'll tell a really common thing
with children is…I'll give you an example of a child that wouldn't go to bed at
night. He was terrified all the time, couldn't concentrate at school. He said
there were two men following him around all the time. So I got him to draw me a
picture of the two men and one had a black mask on. The other one carried a
knife. And I looked at the picture. I thought he's generated these himself
because what happens is the kid can generate, get fascinated with a monster on
a film or a game or something. And then for a younger kid…
They
create it themselves.
The subconscious mind will then build that up into a bigger
and bigger image. Without the kid even wanting it to necessarily, and all of a
sudden he's got a monster that he's terrified off. But the thing, the
interesting thing is that this, these monsters are then sort of like, what do I
call it? Thought form. They've been created by the thoughts of the child, but
they're so realistic that I can go in and talk to them. And I went and talked
to these two men. I said guys you’re terrorizing little Johnny here. And they
said “no worries, he made us, see, we follow him around cause we like him. And I
said, that might be the case, but it's scaring the hell out of him. And he
can't sleep at night, he can't pay attention in school, he's terrified all the
time. So I said, you've got to go. I'm
sorry, but you have to go. So each one of them had a sort of an umbilical cord
attached to the child, like an energy cord. So I gradually, or very gently
extracted that from the child for each one of them. And they just shriveled up and
died. And then at this level, I can speak to the child's subconscious mind
cause when I'm working remotely with a child, I'm working at that level. So I
said to the kid. Would you like to have an angel instead of those scary guys?
Oh yeah. So we summoned it up. An angel who looked uncommonly like a Lego man
actually, and he was very happy with that. His mother told me…and this is an
issue for me, George, in a way because when I first started this work, I really
had doubts about whether it was real and that I was making it up and it was all
fantasy. But I get feedback. What this child's mother said to me a week later
that she was out walking with him and he said, Gee Mom, I’m so glad I don't
have that man with me anymore. It's really nice. I don't even think about him
anymore.
Yeah.
So people's lives change. It really makes a big difference.
Are you
finding that more people are getting possessed or attached than before?
Well, I don't know because I don't meet a wide spectrum and
the people that come to me all have a problem, they don't come to me cause they’re
happy. So a lot of the people that come to me have an attachment of some sort,
but I don't know whether that's representative of the general population.
Although I would say that that most people who get addicted to a drug for
instance, will have an attachment. Alcoholics will have an attachment. People
that, are really depressed will often have an attachment. People that hate
their work often have an attachment. So it's much more common in the community
than it is realized, but how common, I don't know statistically,
Now when
you come in and try to help somebody, how quickly can you get rid of this
spirit or demon?
Oh, look, immediately, I'll find it actually. Once I've
seen that I would just work on it immediately and talk with it. I'd talk,
explain to the client what we're doing and the client, I talk out loud to the
spirit. Even now I don't have to, I can talk telepathically to it, but I talk
out loud so the client knows what's going on and we can get rid of it on the
spot. Sometimes I feel it leave their body and other times they don’t, but they
usually feel much lighter after I've taken something out. But on the other
hand, you have to be careful because sometimes the psyche is like… the human
psyche is vast and very deep and you can have entities that are hiding down at
a deeper level, a deeper layer and they will come to the surface on a second consultation.
Sometimes or if you're not careful, other ones will come in to take that place.
For instance, I've had a number of clients that have been
involved in lifetimes in South America, in the Aztec culture and the Mayan
culture and they were very bloodthirsty cultures. Some of my clients have in
those cultures worked directly, which was common there, with the darkside. The
priests would work with the dark side consciously and willingly to enhance
their powers. Once you do that and get involved in that, the darkside considers
that they have your forever. Not just for this last time, but for them. It's an eternal contract. So they will then come through and try to attach dark
entities to you in this lifetime. So then I have to take them out and then
push, push back to that place and sometimes deal with entities back there in
South America, which is still operating, even though the cultures aren't there.
When a culture builds up a thought form, like a deity or something like that, the
deity can become so powerful from the thoughts of the people that it can still
be there and operating thousands of years after the culture that created it has
gone.
How do you remove a curse.? We'll
talk with Brett about that and take your calls in this next hour.
Brett, before
I ask about curses, tell us about your book The Road Home.
The Road Home I wrote before I was involved in this with George. It's a
channeled book in two volumes and it's the direct voice of God telling you how
to practice your approach to spiritual matters. And I teach a form of that to
my clients and sometimes run workshops on this. And I teach people how to get
in touch with their highest self. I'm actually running a workshop in May in
Melbourne here with the real
Ghostbusters conference. I'll be talking and running a three hour workshop. I
teach people to get in touch with their higher self and, and work that way. And
basically, this is the same concept running through that book. It deals in
detail with all the, all the types of resistances that will arise in you when
you try and do that.
And not everyone gets all of them, but most people get quite
a lot of resistance. Like they'll say, Oh, I really love God to tell me what I
needed to do. But the thought actually terrifies most people because they'll
think I'll have to do something I don't want to do. You'll take something away
from me. It'll be a sacrifice. And that's all very erroneous thinking of
course. How can getting in touch with God be a sacrifice? And getting in touch
with your higher self is really getting in touch with the source because I tell
people that the higher self is the part of the mind that is still in touch with
the source. And most of us ignore it and we work with our lower mind and the
ego, which tells us we're separate individuals and alone and we have to look
after ourselves and make them competitive and fight with people that don't
agree with us.
What can
you tell us about curses?
Curses are really, really nasty, George, because when
someone's been cursed, they usually get a feeling almost of nausea. They get a
feeling, something's wrong. They just get that awful achy feeling without
actually knowing what's going on. And that's just a terrible, terrible feeling.
And it's almost like you feel out of control. Something is happening to you and
you don't know what to do about it. Things start going wrong in your life and
you know, a dead bird turns up on your doorstep or your cat will disappear, or
you'll get aches and pains in various parts of your body and your energy is
depleted that day. That’s the sort of symptoms you get. I had a man come to me recently and he, he
had a wind blowing on one part of his body and when a wind blows, you feel a
cold wind blowing on you, that's always a sign of spiritual work going on. And
he also had a pain in that part of his body. So I went in and took a look at it
and realized it was a curse. And in talking to him. I found that the pain had
started this shortly after he broken up with his ex-girlfriend about a year
previously. So I followed the energy trail back in, and it took me back to a
certain place and he said, Oh yeah, the mother used to live there and she dabbled
in the occult.
Si what had happened was his girlfriend had gone home, told
mum about the breakup and mum had said, look, I'll give you a bit of a fix for
you. Something along those lines. And she'd put a curse on him and that was how
it worked. So I then had to go back and talk to the mother myself and say,
look, stop doing this. I'll come back, I'll actually come back and take your powers
away from you. And she said, well, you can't do that. And I said, well, yes I
can. So I gave her a bit of an example of what I could do and then she chose to
cease and desist at that point because she realized it was a bit dangerous for
her to keep calling.
All
right, let's take some calls. They're lining up. Let's go to Donna and
Cleveland, Ohio to get stuff started up. She's not ready yet. We'll go to Ed
and Connecticut and welcome to the program.
Hey
George, thanks for taking my call. Brett my question, is a fellow Australian
Mary Rodwell, I don't know if you've heard of her, but she's done some
research. I don't know to what extent, but uh, about children being abducted
and then taught like unbelievable things about how the universe works and super
technology and whatnot. And I was wondering if you've heard of her and if
there's any correlation about these evil attachments. Cause you mentioned one
child having some type of implant or whatnot and that's about it.
Look, I've had a number of children with implants that I've
had to take out. They're easy to take out, but then I follow back the trail to
the extraterrestrials that have put the implant in place because if I don't, they'll
put another one in. And I explained to them that, it's illegal to do that
without the permission of the person concerned. And they usually argue with me
and I say something to them like, look, if you don't cease the activity that
you're involved in here with my client and I’m representing her and all the
other clients that you've got, all the other people, you've got attachments on.
And if you don't take them out and leave, I will make sure you don't actually
get back to your home, your home base, wherever that is. And they usually, say
then well, we don't think you've got the power to do that. So then what I do is
will wrap up the person I'm talking to in light and start to squeeze him and they
suddenly realize I did have the power to put them in a dark zone from which
they cannot go home and they’ll pack up and leave every time virtually. Yeah.
Hmm.
The important thing here is that we're not totally victims
of these extraterrestrials. They can be threatened in that way. And they're
aware of that themselves and they don't want to get stranded out here forever.
They want to get back home. I've only ever had one child that was abducted. And
I came on the scene after that had happened. I went up and did a similar thing
with the extraterrestrials there. and got rid of them. So, the child finally
settled down, but I haven't had a lot to do with abductions as such to tell the
truth.
What do
they think of ETs in Australia, Brett? Are they a very forward with it?
There's a lot of interest in it.They have tours into the Outback into some parts of some parts in the
Outback of Australia where you see lights just flowing around all night, you
know, and quite regular one night, but regularly. And this is a particular
place up in, I think it's Northern new South Wales, where I think at some sort
of a hub because there's a lot of the activity in the sky at night up there. I
think it's much the same all over the world actually, George
Brett,
you've written a little bit about the missing plane. MH, three 70, that
disappeared years ago with all their passengers aboard. People think the pilot
tanked the plane. But you have your own theory.
I do. Yes. Yeah, very much. Um, I was in a psychic
development group sometime after that, and I was just meditating in the group
and without any thought about that incident, and I suddenly found myself under
water and I thought, Oh, what's going on here? And then I see in front of me
the fuselage of a plane with a big hole blasted out where it was broken as it
had fallen in one side. So I thought straight away that this was that airplane.
So I went inside and there was one, Asian woman in there, and she was screaming
at me and she was saying, “but they knew if something was wrong, why didn't they
do something? Why didn't they do something? I want to go home, I want to go
home.” And, and I'm thinking, well, how do I handle this? Because she doesn't realize she stayed on. That was the
problem, I think. So, at that point I looked around and standing off to one
side, some distance was an Asian man and a woman and a couple of kids. And I
saw what was going on. I said, there's your family over there. And she went
zoom and she was gone bye. Got it. A light. They've got this. I shouldn't say
they, but some of them have this, you know, family heritage thing that's more
important. So she was gone and at that point I saw that the captain was still
in the cockpit, but he was in a, he was in a psychotic state and I was advised
to leave him. They said no one could do anything with him at that time. So I
then exited that scene and found myself back in the, in the room with the
psychic development class.
Are you
convinced he tanked the plane?
Yes, yes. I think he was. He was responsible for that. Yes.
Yeah. That his condition at that point indicated to me that that was the case.
Yes. Yes.
Let's go
to Stacy in Holly Springs, Mississippi. Welcome to the show. Hi Stacy.
Hello
everyone. I want to thank you first of all for taking my phone call.
Sure.
I live in
Holly Springs, Mississippi. I purchased the house a year ago and I do know that
has a ton of activity. I didn't believe in it until I moved in. I've come to a
conclusion that we kind of live together, if that makes sense. I have them on
video. Um, I have them when I tape at night, I can hear them where my concern
is this and I was wondering if you can help me. I've had this dog or three
years prior to moving in and it's a lovable dog. Um, never had a problem, got
along with my cats, the whole thing. And I was wondering if entities can enter
into an animal. He has killed both of my cats at this point. But it's not all
the time that he's angry. If you look he literally will change. His whole face
will change. And he attacked my husband to the point where one of them was
gonna die. I can’t put him down, because he switches right back to normal.
yeah. There are really positive signs that there's an entity
in him almost, almost certainly. I would
say so. Yes.
How do
you get rid of an entity in an animal, Brent?
It’s just the same that you're do with a person, but from my
point of view, but for, from the owner's point of view, I think you've probably
gotta go see someone like me and get them to do some work with the animal. It's
really not different to taking it into a human being. It's just much the same.
I can go
online then and set something up with you?
So you can, yes. If you go to my website and, and make
contact with me and just remind me of the case and I'll, I'll certainly look
into that fully and I'll look at it. What I need is your address, that
residential address, So I can tune into the advice directly. We can look
without that, but it's harder. It's much quicker if I've got the address where
the dog lives. Yep.
And you
take emails obviously, right?
Yes, yes, yes. Uh, you can send me an email and then, um,
you can arrange payment either the, either the fruit, PayPal, something like
that. But yup. Can fix that for you or that I can guarantee you that I could
clean up the other things too if you want them cleaned up, if you're happy with
them, not everyone wants to get rid of their end of these. I had a woman once a
an Indian woman and it seemed like nearly half, half the family that had become
deceased in the, in the previous generation had joined in and she had uncles
and aunts and grandparents in there and she used to talk to them regularly and
she didn't want me to take any of them out, but we're real happy. And so just had
to leave ‘em be.
Let's go
to Wayne in Chicago. OK, go ahead.
Thank you
George, and thank you for your incredible guests. You're absolutely incredible,
sir.
There you
go, Brett.
Yup. Yes.
I'm, I have a question that I've asked before on this show. Um, here's a
question, George. If you have a child, did you leave your child with the child
molester to babysit knowing that the child or the child knowing that the person
is a child?
Heck no.
He wouldn't even be close to the kid. Okay.
Would you, would you leave your family in the care of a
serial killer knowing that he's a serial killer?
No, of
course not.
So why
don't these higher powers who have complete control not stop the evil entities
from doing what they're doing when they already know what these evil entities
are?
Now, when
you say higher powers, who are we talking about?
God, the
angels.
Wow. Okay.
What do you think of that, Brett?
Oh, look, yeah, that's a, that's a common question and it's
an age old question. But the effect is that God doesn't interfere directly. He
offers us the power for us to do that. We have to be his hands and his feet and
his lips and his voice. The whole purpose of us being here on, on the planet is
for us to realize our own power. And we have free will and it's our free will
that's created the environment that we live in, in this world. And it's our
free will. We have to use that free will to get out all that. God will not
interfere with our free will. If we want to do evil things, he will not stop us
because that's our will. But on the other hand, God isn't mean, because he
knows that all this negativity on the planet is really illusory.
The original spiritual self of each person is never affected
by what happens on this planet. But at a mental level, we've got to make a
decision to put our minds in line with our spirit and live that way as against,
taking our minds and putting it in touch with our ego and then doing, taking
advantage of other people and, and so on and so forth. And that's working
itself out in the gradually evolution of the human spirit on this planet. And
that has to be worked out, through the people with free will. God will not interfere,
he will send someone down like a Jesus or Buddha or Zoroaster and ask him to
teach us how to lift our energy up, but he can't do it for us and he won't get
rid of the bad guys because in his eyes they're spiritually perfect as well.
But at an emotional or a personality level, they're not. But that's where free
will comes in. And what we're here to learn is how to handle that free will by
putting our mind in in a con, in sync with our spirit and that that's the
highest self. So that's what I teach people. I said June India high self and
listen to listen to that. It will guide you in the right direction. Absolutely.
And that'll teach you how to handle difficult people as well.
Can
someone, we were talking about this before the break, can someone be attached
to more than two, one or two entities at one time?
Uh, you mean, a deceased person be attached to more than two
or more than one other person?
Yes.
I haven't ever come across that. What I have come across is
that a deceased person can have dark entities in them, which then they attach
themselves to someone else. So the other person's got an earthbound with dark
entities in it. I remember I had a
client once, but I've never come across someone being able to split themselves.
Although I came across a client once and she, had a, an Vietnam veteran in, attached
to her and operating within her. He was a very funny guy. And he had us both
laughing. He was talking through her and before he arranged, we arranged for
him to leave. And I said to him before he left, I said, are there any other
entities in this person? Cause it's a good question to ask because often there
are as one, there's often more. And he said yeah, the whole platoon’s here!
huh?
What happened was they’d been wiped out in action in Vietnam
and he was the sort of happy go lucky guy that everyone in the platoon like and
he must have been one of the last ones killed because they all attached to him.
There was a whole bunch of guys there in this woman. So we sent them all off
together as he checked with them and they said we're happy to go to the light. So
we sent him off as a package deal and got rid of them that way. But I've never
heard of anyone being able to split themselves between, but look, I wouldn't
say it's out of the question because I constantly find that the strange, rare
and peculiar happen in the spirit world.
Do you
think Brett, that dabbling in the spirit world, the way you have primarily, uh,
in the long run will hurt you physically?
No, no. In fact, it's strengthened me because I've become
aware of the power that's at my disposal. And look, I'm not a Christian, but I
align myself with the Christ energy because I figured if I'm going to work in this
field, I want to have the very, very top, the best energy that's available to
me because then I know I'm safe and I can deal with anything that arises. Now if
it’s big and strong I can beat it, I can ask my higher self how to use the
energy that's available to me, exactly how the best way to work with any
particular entity that I'm confronted with. And I do that regularly and that
that's a real strengthening thing for me. And I fully believe that eventually as time goes
on, this work will become a normal part of healing for people that are doing
the work I do will work in conjunction with Orthodox medicine because a lot of
people I know out there taking medication because of the symptoms they've got
from entities that are attached to them and really they needn't be taking that
medication.
It's dangerous to dabble into, things like an Ouija board
and you don't know anything about what you're doing. But I think eventually
more and more people, have got to become alert to what's going on here and that
we actually live in a world where the entities are around us all the time. They
really are. They're, just, they’re in people and not only in people but around,
and we need to be aware of that, that people have them in their houses and that
upsets the kids sometimes because kids, the young children, pick up on the much
more than the adults.
Yup.
They're around all the time where we live. We don't live
independently as human beings in a world that we only occupy. We live with this
spiritual life all around us. And deceased people come and visit us, relatives
and things quite often, and we don't even know it will dream about them and
think we just had a dream. Whereas in fact, quite often that means that they
were actually there in the room, come to visit you, but they couldn't make
themselves known to you.
Let's go
to Rob, Portland, Oregon, first time caller. Rob, go ahead, sir.
Hello gentlemen,
you are
on and ready to go.
Hey, I
had a question about, the 1970s. Anxiety was a big deal. And depression was
rare. As time progressed, depression has become prevalent and it's like the
10th, it's ranked 10th. As far as mortality. They're, they're predicting by
2020, it'll be higher. Yeah.
And then
is that a factor of medicating people, or how are we progressing from being
anxious in 1970 being, uninterested in life in the future? How does the
entities that you're talking about, is there a correlate?
Entities will have a depressing effect on people, but I don't think that's
necessarily accounts for the rise in depression. I think a part of it has come
from the medication. People are put on medication too early. And the problem
with those medications is it, it doesn't allow them to get over the depression.
It tends to just make it chronic.
Yeah, I
mean some of the side effects of the medication, Brett suicide and stuff like
that.
Yup. Yup. That's the sort of thing it goes on and I, and the
more people are on medication, the more people don't get over the depression.
So they are effectively have more people in the community that are depressed.
I'm not saying that's the only cause, I think that you've had the demise of
organized religion to a large extent, not completely, but probably even more so
in this country than yours. I'm not saying that that was the answer to
everything, but on the other hand, people have lost that sense of what they
here for. They've lost that sense of belonging and stability. And we live in a
more uncertain world. In the 70s, you got a job. You could more or less stay in
that job for a long time. Now you know, you're going to have about four careers
in any one lifetime. And, and also with the internet, we're much more in tune
with all the negative news that's going on around the world and that hits up a
bad vibe for a lot of people.
Next up
we have Gracie in Portland, Oregon. Hello Gracie. Welcome to the program.
Hi.
Hey there.
I am so
excited to hear this program tonight. So I have two things. My son was born in
1990 and in 1991 he was very, very ill, probably a total of a month in the
hospitals and then, some recovery time after that. So when he got to be about
18 months old, he started changing his little personality, started being
aggressive. I mean, it was just like day and night. By the time he was three
years old, he was super ADHD with all this oppositional defiance. I have a lady
here in Portland that knew a man. He's passed now. I believe his name was Ben
and he was in Colorado and he did the same type of work that you did. He did. I
didn't have to hardly give him any information about my son at all. And he
said, I'll call you back.
And in
three weeks he called me back and he said, your son had, three entities in him.
Cause when he was very sick, he had just turned a year old in the hospital. So,
he said one was a little old lady that just kind of lost her way. One was a
gentleman that was just, you know, hanging out, wasn't ready to go on. But the
third one was a very, very, very dark entity. And he says it's gonna take some
time for me to clear, you know, his aura, but you'll know, you'll know when
he's gone. And he said, I can't tell you how you will know, but you'll know. So
about three weeks later I was talking to my cousin on the phone and my son came
up to me, mommy, mommy, that man is gone. That man has gone. And I'm like, what
are you talking about? Cause you know, I didn't correlate at the time. I'm
like, I'm on the phone. Don't bug mommy when she's on the phone. No, mommy,
he's gone. He left through my finger.
Jeez.
All of a
sudden I got like this super chill and I'm like, Oh my God. He said this man,
he left through my finger. He's gone.
How does
somebody get three attachments? Brett?
Well, look, it's not hard George. If in hospital it's easy
because people die in hospital regularly. Sometimes they'll just attach to
someone that looks, easy going or friendly or if they're lost and lonely, they'll
attach and you can easily pick up a couple. It's not hard to do. You could even
have somebody that dies that already has an attachment with them and they'll
bring somebody with them. So you've got two in one go. It's not hard to pick up
more than one. And, people in certain occupations are much more liable to, like
nurses and, and people like work with the dying quite often now they'll pick up.
People often have a number of people with them. It's just easier than you think.
And also when people are in the hospital, their energy, the
immune system is down and the often their energy field is down and they're not
operating at full strength. So it's easy for an entity to attach and just slip
in at that point. And usually in the hospital you'll pick up a deceased person
rather than a dark entity. Although I have had children, I had a child about a
year ago that was in a hospital here in Melbourne and came home and his mother
said soon as soon as he came home, he was just out of control. And I went in
and he had a, a dark entity in him and that he'd picked it up in the hospital.
And I got a shock because I went back to the hospital and check what was going
on there. And I met their, what I call a
mechanical. It's more or less like a cyborg only instead of being half man,
half machine, it's half dark entity and half machine. It's like a sophisticated
robot. And when I trace back to where that came from, I demolished it. But when
I traced back to where it came from, I found it had been made with the help of
human beings that are working with the dark side on this planet at this moment.
So there are certain people that are working with the dark side and producing
these things at the moment. And what you find is that when I worked with the dark
side over the years that I use, when they work out that I've discovered a
certain way of knowing what they are doing and I've got a defense against it, they'll
change and produce something else and try to do something else.
For instance, when I follow the energy trail back, that's
really easy. So what they do sometimes is, they’ll trick me the first time,
they'll take the energy trial down through the ground and they'll come, they'll
approach the client subterraneously and hoping that you won't be able to follow the trail
back because if you follow the trail back, you usually find a bigger entity.
And they don't like to lose the big one. So they change their modus operandi as
you learned to deal with what they dishing out. But these mechanical entities seem
to be fairly new. I’ve only come up against them in the last year or two.
Brad's
website is linked up at coasttocoastam.com, it is spiritreleasetherapy.au
That's au for Australia. That's where he is. Do you travel much? Do you get to
the States, Brett?
No, no, no. I don't travel much actually. George. I'm
a bit of a stay at home, so I’m not a sight-seer. I'd say I'll go somewhere if I
have something specific to do. So, I
have had no cause to go to the United States yet.
Well
let's keep our fingers crossed that we have an enlightened 2019. Huh?
Look what I've been told about 2019 it's going to be a year of
revelations that the things that had been secret will be brought into the open,
and the things that had been hidden will be made known. And so I'm waiting for
that to happen. I think it will be probably largely in the political and
business world, but that's that was what I was told this year would be a
battle amongst others.
Well,
here we go. Hold on Brett. Thanks for being on the show.
